Smoother animation ≠ Better animation [4K 60FPS]
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Trigger warning for loud sounds towards the end of the vid.

This was entirely edited, and was supposed to be exported, in 48fps, not 50. Funny thing is, Premiere simply doesn't allow custom frame rates in its export window, despite supporting it as a sequence setting. I could have exported the Premiere file into After Effects and added the sequence to the render cue, but I couldn't because AE threw me an error every time I tried. That, combined with the legitimately unbelievable amount of bugs and errors and crashes left me feeling so exhausted and numb that I ultimately decided it was worth sacrificing one 25th of a second's worth of timing here and there. If you catch any editing errors, that'd be why. Oh well!!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
1:27 - Laying the Groundwork
4:32 - Ad break
5:55 - Timing and Easing
9:52 - Smear Frames But Worse™
11:11 - Wrong Tool for the Wrong Job
13:58 - Outro

Animation used (in order of appearance):
Tom and Jerry
Pixel Art (various)
Cat walk ( www.reddit.com/r/animation/co... )
Cowboy Bebop
Mulan
Persona 4
300FPS Bowser in cat suit
Spirit (Roughs by James Baxter)
Devilman Crybaby
A Cat in Paris
Wire by Worthikids
Spiderverse
DBZ Fighterz
ParaNorman
Spongebob
Daffodil 3 by Smallbu
Overwatch
Moonlight Fox by Smallbu
JoJo Part 5
XCOM 2
Cafouillage by Tom Law
PokeAwesome
Planet Panic
TMNT 'Don VS Ralph'
Klaus (Lineart by James Baxter)
El Dorado
Naruto
1Samurai Jack Season 5
Dead Leaves
Keep Your Hands off Eizouken
Meet Arnold (Cacani Demo)
'Float' by Pixar

Music used (in order of appearance):
Les Cafes De Paris - Joe E Lee
Apple Kid's Theme - Earthbound
Let the Game Begin! - SiIvaGunner
Noisy Notebook D - Snipperclips
Stage Clear - Wii Play Motion
Good Evening Bossa - Riverworn
Buy Something, Will Ya!? - Earthbound
Stamp Mode - Snipperclips
Apotos (Night) - Sonic Unleashed
Quilty Court - Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn
Just One More Night With You - Thiago
5PM - Animal Crossing New Leaf
Trophy Gallery - Super Smash Bros. Brawl

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  • James Baxter
    James Baxter

    Fantastic rant, I love it! And you're absolutely right. I love how you underline the intent of the artist. Those who would seek to replace artists with machine learning and AI clearly don't understand what art is for. Replace stuff that people don't want to do, or can't do. But people get joy (and their livelihood) from creating art, and they want to do it. It's one of the things that make us human. I'm no Luddite, and I love using new tools to create my animation. But when it starts to encroach upon the fulfillment that I get from creating, then no thanks! You might argue that this is just interpolation and chill out. But my response to that is just wait, this is just getting started.

    • Red Egg
      Red Egg

      @teh one opinion invalid.

    • ScribbleT!me
      ScribbleT!me

      THE JAMES BAXTER??

    • Lunite76
      Lunite76

      NO ABSOLUTE FUCKING WAY! ITS YOU WHAT THE FUCK!

    • Meme Hub
      Meme Hub

      JAMES BAXTER??!?!?!?!?

    • Alex Mitsikas
      Alex Mitsikas

      James fucking Baxter??

  • mohammad adnan babelli
    mohammad adnan babelli

    Fun Fact: if you pause the video and click . it will go for 1 frame but , will go back 1 frame. and i think 31 or 32 frames is 1 second.

  • Bonzi Bonnie 2
    Bonzi Bonnie 2

    love how he made the video 50 fps lmaoo

  • Horror Sans
    Horror Sans

    ight ima bout make a animation with 1 frame a second

  • uhkingdom
    uhkingdom

    This video? Great. But seeing how much EgoRaptor aka Mr. Video Game Boy himself Arin Hanson has influenced the style of animators videos like this is heartwarming. There's so much of him in this video that it honestly makes it even easier to sit and watch it, starry eyed the whole time.

  • Sownheard
    Sownheard

    hating on tech not based :P

  • Void Caron
    Void Caron

    "here is a picture of a little man. he's doing very well and i am proud of him." man i came here to learn about animation, not get emotionally attached to another drawing

  • Rashira
    Rashira

    So...are we just not talking about how I can only get 1080p50 even though my TV can do 1080p60?

  • StrugleMufin
    StrugleMufin

    Me when a gamer ruins something again. 4:38

  • Luke Ransom
    Luke Ransom

    Hehe time to interpolate this video to 60 FPS

  • Hectic Hive
    Hectic Hive

    Wait, I didn’t even know there was an option on ISdowns for 50 FPS like in the quality settings on this vid, I thought there was only 60 and 30 FPS

  • Luke Willets
    Luke Willets

    No clue who you are but im glad i found you

  • Seintix
    Seintix

    You are a big inspiration to me

  • Matěj Kofroň
    Matěj Kofroň

    -i don't care, i just think it looks better :)- *Awesome vid, loved it*

  • subject #247
    subject #247

    SpongeBob: mainly appeal

  • Brendan ryan
    Brendan ryan

    What animation software do you use

  • Roland De Verrec
    Roland De Verrec

    idc i just think it looks better :)

  • Iyce Phoenixx
    Iyce Phoenixx

    7:47 I was waiting for him to just stuff it into his mouth....don't ask me why

  • Altima NEO
    Altima NEO

    lol yeah, the unwashed masses don't understand animation. People just see more frames and assume the smoothened animation means more better.

  • ThatDumbo
    ThatDumbo

    "I just like how to looks :)"

  • Green Stachio
    Green Stachio

    Lol His reaction to the price of the book is exactly what I would do.

  • chilltasticus
    chilltasticus

    On a related matter I've noticed this kind of phenomenon of unnecessarily smoothing out edges as of late surrounding all the popular types of media, for example, "8D Music" or "ENB GRAPHICS ENHANCED" or "pixelart upscaling". I'm not sure if that's how you phrase it, but it just nukes the whole intention the author had while creating the work, which is very crucial because then said work becomes soulless.

  • Dino's Sanbox
    Dino's Sanbox

    i tried animating using 60 fps. i can agree to this

  • Tahmid Nasir
    Tahmid Nasir

    "5 MILLION VIEWS!!" Well, this video got over 6 million views.

  • Wild wolf laps
    Wild wolf laps

    was dat animation software? i wanna get into animating but the one's i find are cold garbage microwaved into been hot again

  • Zeubermage
    Zeubermage

    No.

  • NoriNori
    NoriNori

    The people who upload 60fps AI animations are the same people who post screencaps of smear frames and have a fit.

  • RickyCreeper095
    RickyCreeper095

    im a gamer but i cant even notice the difference between 30 and 60fps

    • Vili Evans
      Vili Evans

      Yes you can, don't lie. Play a game at 60fps and then limit it to 30 from the settings. You absolutely can tell the difference. This video is about cartoons and such, not about games in which higher FPS is always better.

  • Beta Sniper
    Beta Sniper

    He got me to subscribe from his scream

  • Koro Plays
    Koro Plays

    24 fps is super slow, it's not a lot.

    • Romana Cacciali
      Romana Cacciali

      Its low for gaming but good for animating

  • Julian Sanderson
    Julian Sanderson

    I remember watching an animated movie on a newer tv that made everything 60 FPS, absolute garbage. It made such hard changes between slow, still movement and unnaturally fast jerky movement. And there was just enough motion blur to make it hard to follow.

  • TheAnthraxBiology
    TheAnthraxBiology

    These videos are so good and the comedic timing is always perfect. I want to know where he gets this stuff.

  • Clarity-1
    Clarity-1

    First time I saw an "enhanced" 60fps animation, I thought it looked fucking horrible

  • shuflesnufle
    shuflesnufle

    Noodle going balistic on the 60fps garbage animation vids me at the end: "holy shit you get your name and a custom picture for 20$" i want that

  • JonatasAdoM
    JonatasAdoM

    I've been consuming youtube so much that my eyes have been burned by the 60 FPS craze. I have nothing against a video natively recorded in 60 FPS but when you take a movie 24 fps and turn it into 60 fps....

  • Sketchie
    Sketchie

    For the gamers that still don't get the point It is completely fine if you like watching media that uses high fps. Nothing wrong with that. But to shove existing animations into Dain and use AI to interpolate it into a higher fps is a fucking insult to the animators. No one cares if you think it looks good or not. It's *RUINING* EVERYTHING that an entire animation team worked on just to make your eyes go "Haha smooth animation go weeeeee".

  • CruddyZebra The Gamer
    CruddyZebra The Gamer

    Me trying to tell the difference between 12 frames and 48 frames when not playing a video game: what the f*ck is difference here

  • • EJ •
    • EJ •

    There, here’s your 6 million views

  • ETHAN Vek
    ETHAN Vek

    12:26 arnold!?

  • Hornpile Pheonix
    Hornpile Pheonix

    I haven't seen one of these animations in my reccomendations since this video was posted

  • evan
    evan

    I love watching 60fps anime

  • loulaloulou
    loulaloulou

    As a music producer, I have the exact same feeling towards the "8d audio" trend staining the internet, it's so awful and I understand your frustration

  • Danilo F. Martins
    Danilo F. Martins

    Great and funny video! :D

  • Mike Multo
    Mike Multo

    Video Title: 60FPS Video fps available: 50FPS 🙁

  • Amanda Bruce
    Amanda Bruce

    Omg I just figured out about this 60fps thing I already hate it

  • Twilight Exabyte
    Twilight Exabyte

    I remember in high school these kids were watching a 60 FPS DBZ Super fight from one of the movies. I watched maybe a minute of it and the two things I got out of it were 1. This looks fucking awful, everything is smeared and I can’t tell what’s going on 2. This is making me motion sick I need to look away

  • Saitou Gin
    Saitou Gin

    4:43 "That's expensive. I wanna buy this book ... but for not expensive." Noodle, 2021

  • GmanGaming
    GmanGaming

    14:07 that scared me out of my shell.

  • Virtual Student
    Virtual Student

    Im wearing headphones and the explosion at the end genuinely scared the shit outta me.

  • ThePugGamer
    ThePugGamer

    6:22 Scp-173

  • ThePugGamer
    ThePugGamer

    I agree 60 FPS Morshu just isn’t right.

  • Flash Fanatic
    Flash Fanatic

    13:04 nice newgrounds angreh faec

  • Lavender360
    Lavender360

    I have no idea why, but I love this analogy so freaking much X'D 13:36 Also, great video, great point made, please nobody get upset at me ^v^ I'm kinda terrified not gonna lie, but I'm still continuing to comment anyways, because that's not a thing I want to stop doing.

  • Rene J89
    Rene J89

    Honestly I don't really care about the FPS , it has to fit, some stuff is good in 24 others are better in 60 fps. But it's like when you watch TV and crank the Herz all the way up to 240hz and wonder why some things and movies just look *fake* and unnatural.

  • Hatte!
    Hatte!

    TLDR normies be tasteless

  • celadonk
    celadonk

    I think for the movies and cartoons and shit it's kind of goofy, but I think the pixel art / video game character idle animations when upscaled to 60 fps has kind of a neat aesthetic to it. I wouldn't want some rando to do it to existing stuff like I've seen in youtube, but if a game development studio wanted their own animations to have the AI-generated faux smoothness to it, I'd probably welcome it with open arms Edit: I'm a musician so I might as well put a musical metaphor in. It's kind of like when people take a MIDI rip from some video game, slap some more high quality soundfonts on it, and call it "updated". It's lazy and it almost always doesn't sound good from a musician's POV, even if people in the comments are freaking out about how good it is. but if the songs were made by a composer with those same soundfonts in mind it would probably be cool!

  • Anakin Bondariev
    Anakin Bondariev

    lmfao dude, (im watching on a chromebook for context) when you said "hey google" (0:45) my chromebook opened the voice control tab hahaha

  • Monte Carlo with dawning ornament
    Monte Carlo with dawning ornament

    I could see it being used in conjunction with other animation formats to make something creepily stick out or move perpously unnaturally

  • -chloe-
    -chloe-

    "it is save you money" WOW what an endorsement

  • runningwild09
    runningwild09

    I guess Ill continue to enjoy watching videos for what they are instead of nitpicking them for each individual frame lol

  • Westin Sweers
    Westin Sweers

    Noodle: “God gamers suck, and you know it’s gamers right ?! Gamers: You just insulted my entire race of people …. But yes.

  • Hanginman
    Hanginman

    You know, I know how many gamers on here, and right at the start of the video he brought up a good example, if Mario was made in unreal, you know it might look cool and some people may prefer it, but it’s just better in the original

    • Hilda Martinez
      Hilda Martinez

      Your comment makes less sense than a flying elephant. And the Unreal engine dosent even look that good. In fact it is dog shit compared to other engines like ID tech 7

  • xnthppjn streams
    xnthppjn streams

    9:38 i did and it fucked with my brain. Good Job!

  • Arvenyte
    Arvenyte

    "This whole shot is interpolated, did you even notice" Man, I started chuckling as soon as I saw the jell-O animation. Honestly, this is almost as bad as people taking in-between frames and criticising them as if they were key frames.

  • goodguy buy
    goodguy buy

    Non artists trying to talk about art yiiiikkkeeess Thanks for putting the time to spotlight this topic!!

  • Quokkat
    Quokkat

    fffhmm.. hard disagree. dont feel like making an entire comment essay. Agree to disagree. Loved the video, really entretaining,(wish it was smoother tho loljk) Subbed!

  • ChasML1
    ChasML1

    "This is 24 frame a second, this is 48 frames a second. You see the difference?" Uhhh... No. No, I don't Was I supposed to, or was that a joke?

    • Senko Two
      Senko Two

      You have to watch it in 1080p

  • HuskyLover269
    HuskyLover269

    I already watched this video and its follow up recently, but when youtube autoplayed onto it, it's so well made I didn't even think about clicking off it lol

  • Alclispe's Art
    Alclispe's Art

    when he said "vasoline" hahaha XD

  • ryder
    ryder

    i actually did notice at 9:40 when the shot was interpolated :) (also as a gamer i completely agree with this video btw!!)

  • Master Leek
    Master Leek

    My dumb gamer brain does feel happy seeing high framerate even though it is ugly and morphy, I need help lol

  • James Sant
    James Sant

    I love that you used the bots from X-com 2!

  • An Alpaca You Know
    An Alpaca You Know

    gotta love how he interpolated the robot scene

  • Thomas Gibbs
    Thomas Gibbs

    13:03 I do agree that the the issue with gamer in animation and with crunch but are there things that you don't blame famers for?Just asking is all, not trying to be an ass.

  • MacCoy
    MacCoy

    ive been spoiled by certain kinds of anime that actually does the work and animates everything. To me, 95% of all anime looks like that interpolate guy sliding like a brick leaving me wondering what the fuck people find appealing about him since hes made with 0 love and 100% machine. great video, i wonder how the soulless youtube doomsday algorithm managed to find you for me. cheers.

  • Working Steve
    Working Steve

    While I agree with everything in this video, That dance from the Hackers video slapped

  • Chizki
    Chizki

    some shows or other animated medias may look “better” with 60 fps but that doesnt mean that its essentially the best frame rate to use.

  • spino The Knight
    spino The Knight

    14:07 My heart : AAAHHH GOD NO GOD PLEASE NO HELPPP

  • McFly
    McFly

    Good video, but the low framerate bugs me... is there a 60fps remastered version somewhere?

  • Brandon Dye
    Brandon Dye

    I wish I could pay you to teach me how to animate.

  • X7
    X7

    Loved the video and the explanation, but a quick note. 1. yes, i'm a gamer 2. I never once in my life asked for animation to raise its "fps", or what others call "quality". Just wanted to make it clear

  • xXCalebrineXx
    xXCalebrineXx

    I play minecraft at 15 frames so yeah, I think that is quick so you guys can freaking deal with 24 frames you imbeciles.

  • Eduardo Augusto
    Eduardo Augusto

    i've watched this video about like 20 times now, i just like it so much

  • reema sh
    reema sh

    The explosion at the end was scary

  • Cuddleshock Arts
    Cuddleshock Arts

    I saw one of my favourite shows boosted to 60fps and it was way better.

  • Mr. Magic Blox
    Mr. Magic Blox

    What would animating on 4's look like in 1080 fps? That could make for a funny video. Push the AI to the extreme to point out its flaws

  • Emily 2956
    Emily 2956

    ive been rewinding the groaning/yelling at the beginning of the ad break for ten minutes and i cant stop someone send help

  • Convex Cornet
    Convex Cornet

    I loved this rant, and there was a lot of comedy to it, but I like my animations smooth, because although I do see the slight appearance of clarity in less frames, the smoothness (when done right) gives the characters that are interpolated more life and presence, and therefore, it's more believable imo. The only drawback with the added frames, is it can look just a little weird, (I know an animator could do a better job than AI at smoothing out animation), but we don't pause the interpolation to check the quality of frames, because the animators already did a good job to start with, and animated cartoons aren't exactly realistic in the first place, so that's a small price to pay for such smoothness imo, except if there's not any animation of a character at all. I know animators don't want to work extra hard to add extra frames, so I won't tell them to work harder. If an AI manages to smooth in between frames that change from 24fps to 12fps and other irregular framerates, I'll be loving it.

  • Chosen_Undead
    Chosen_Undead

    If an AI forces a 24 fps animation to run at 60 fps with interpolation, it looks like trash. If an animator purposefully made an animation at 60 fps I'm going to prefer it over the 24 fps one every single time. If it didn't massively increase the workload, it would simply be better.

  • Daily dose of reality
    Daily dose of reality

    What animation program do you use

  • Klay28
    Klay28

    Thank you for your wisdom great Noodle I shall change my ways.

  • SavageRage
    SavageRage

    haha ai go brrrrrrrr

  • Haran
    Haran

    Bro I play Minecraft in like 24 fps do I look like a guy who cares about frames.

  • Tonk Boi
    Tonk Boi

    "GAMERS ONLY CARE ABUT FRAME RATES" Me a gamer happy at 8 or 9 fps

  • Im_Andrew
    Im_Andrew

    I wish I could be as big as you ;-;

  • Awer Tyuiop
    Awer Tyuiop

    Watching on 720p 50fps. Wait…

  • zanguusu
    zanguusu

    this video has the wrong title. this is not a rant about high framerate animation, this is a rant about using modern interpolation software to artificially raise the framerate of a work. animating at a high framerate is obviously better but it feels like you are trying your hardest to make it look like it is not. like how at 3:02 you say "there's nothing wrong with having more frames" as if having more frames wasn't DEMONSTRABLY, OBJECTIVELY BETTER in every case

  • TheFrenchFryGuy
    TheFrenchFryGuy

    The spider-verse interpolation looks like a crappy 2005 wii super hero game

  • It Was Soda
    It Was Soda

    Wait a second if he fell on his chin and hurt it because he fell on glass, why does he have a bandage on his head?

  • Crazy Caid
    Crazy Caid

    I don't animate so I don't have much of an opinion here but I do get how it would be extremely annoying when you put so much effort into something but then someone just goes like WeLl AcTuAlLaY 60FpS and it gets triple the views your animation got it also does look kinda weird